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Invisible fences?
Posted by heartu on 2010-03-05 15:07
 
Reading about all the things that interfere with PMs, I haven't seen anything about invisible (electical) fences.

I have one neighbor who has his turned up to the maximum because his dogs are bad and will go right through. Anyone hear about any problems going near one or through one?
 

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fences

Comment posted by TraceyE on 2010-03-05 15:54.
I would check with the mfr of her fence, but I'm pretty sure we're supposed to stay away from them. I don't know what distance we should stay back, but I know we should not go through one.
 

Invisible fences

Comment posted by Cabg Patch on 2010-03-05 15:59.

Naw you should be fine if you don't grab the fence. They really only have adverse effect on invisible dogs.
 

I contacted

Comment posted by Magster on 2010-03-05 19:44.
Medtronic about the same thing and their answer said you can walk through them but don't stand on top of the lines or right next to them.

My 2 cents? I don't like them for dogs as teaching a dog his property line by buzzing him electrically is not the way to go. Once they jump them, they'll do it again and again and it doesn't keep other dogs out.

Leash or hard fenced yard is the best way to keep your dog safe. I'm sure I'll hear other opinions but that's how I feel....(-:

For you heartu - you may want to double check with your manufacturer just to be sure.

Sue
 

lol

Comment posted by TraceyE on 2010-03-05 20:41.
Sue, I was biting my tongue from saying the same thing! We won't approve an adoption if someone has an electric fence. (Sue and I both work in dog rescue)
 

I don't believe in invisible fences either

Comment posted by heartu on 2010-03-05 21:07.
I don't have an invisible fence, buy many of my neighbors do. My highly intelligent dog, knows her boundaries and never wanders off property when I let her out to do her business, She is always on leash when we go on walks.

But today my one neighbor was waving me to come over and I know her invisible fence is turned up to the max because her dogs go right through. I wasn't sure I wanted to go up to see her. Plus not everyone knows that I got a PM. (Only told a few close neighbors).

I wish there were a detailed list of what is and isn't ok. I have read that the store security systems is another thing to be wary off (don't stand there too long). Saw something about there being magnets in the headrest of dentist's chairs. Would a lead shield help? lol
 

Whooooa...

Comment posted by dward on 2010-03-05 22:21.
Invisible fences (like ANY dog training equipment) are fine and humane WHEN USED PROPERLY.
They have saved many dogs from dangers like being run over, trampled by cattle, etc.
Some places do not allow fences, so people who are still GREAT pet owners use the invisible fences to train their dogs to stay in a certain area.

I like the invisible fence option better than the poor dogs I see attached to a 15 or 20 foot chain every day of their lives (those who do dog rescuing will know that this treatment often precludes a dog having to be rescued.)

I am a dog lover and trainer. Again, any dog training device can be humane when used CORRECTLY.
On the other side, even a simple leash or collar can be inhumane if used incorrectly.


 

Someone fill me in

Comment posted by ElectricFrank on 2010-03-06 00:31.
What is an Invisible Electric Fence? Funny, I've never heard of it. I well know what a visible one feels like!

Anyway, let me know and I'll put on my engineering cap and wax eloquent on the possible effects.

frank
 

Yes

Comment posted by Zombie on 2010-03-06 06:49.

How do you think my wife keeps me in the yard????

Seriously, I think you'll be ok, "BUT" I am totally against those fences, it is animal cruelty, I once breached a construction contract with a doctor who had his dogs vocal cords removed....he said he did too many night surgeries and had to sleep alot during the day and the dogs barking bothered him.......I still hate that SOB..so does everyone I told about him......I would love to remove his vocal cords with a rusty fork.....anyway, I always rescue strays, always go to no kill shelters for my pets, donate to ASPCA, animals are cool, people suck.......except my heart doctors, of course they are nice,....(had to suck up)...
 

Frank

Comment posted by Magster on 2010-03-06 09:28.
An invisible fence is a set of underground wires that surround an outside area where an owner wants to keep a dog contained. The wires are hooked up to a transmitter usually kept in owner's garage or home where it can be turned on or off. The dog wears a collar that has a receiver on it so when he crosses the underground wire he gets "buzzed", basically shocked. This is basically aversion therapy because the dog is supposed to remember he was buzzed and won't cross it again. However many do and then owner turns up voltage and I have personally heard a dog yelp, cry or scream when attempting to cross it. That's not cruel?? Then they won't come back and what happens. You have a dog that is so confused because he wants to go home but won't cross the line because of fear of being hurt again. PS To dward - I completely agree that ANY training device when used improperly can harm a dog. I don't advocate chaining a dog out either and owner should be present when dog is leashed. (other end of leash (-:) I'm also a dog trainer and rehabilitator of puppy mill dogs. Sue
 

Controversial?

Comment posted by heartu on 2010-03-06 10:56.
I really did not want my question to become a controversy. And for those who are curious... I can break through any barrier!

Oh Frank & Zombie, kudos to you and I'll supply the rusty fork. There are so many ways to train your dog not to bark or just about anything else. I used a can of air to do a lot of training (just sprayed it next to the dog for certain behaviors like barking), mainly did clicker training and I swear my dog has an extensive vocabulary. She knows gras versus street. When she started to stray off property I used to say grass and reward her (later clicker) and she knows that she must stay on grass. When she has her leash she knows we are going for a walk on the street. She''ll even carry her own leash.
 

Invisible fences/Bye bye dog

Comment posted by lenora on 2010-03-06 16:24.
I happen to own a very crafty and clever basenji whose goal in life is escape. No fence invisible or otherwise would keep her in. She just circles the yard 20 times to build up speed then goes over the 6 foot chain link fence. I don't have an invisible fence but I'm sure one would not present a problem to her. She'd just study the situation, formulate a plan to circumvent the fence, and in due time she'd be gone! I don't even want to know what an invisible fence would do to my pacemaker.








































































 

Magster

Comment posted by ElectricFrank on 2010-03-09 01:24.
Thanks for the update. I vaguely remember reading about them.

So all the buried wire does is transmit a wireless signal to the collar and that is where all the energy is contained to zap the pouch. In that case they shouldn't be any problem to a pacemaker. The wireless signal has to be very low energy to only trigger the collar when the dog is right over it.

frank
 

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