"Awesome Foursome"...??

Has anyone heard of this? It's a stack of four supplements that are said to help the heart regain energy. A Dr. Sinatra proposes it; I found a lot of results, all with his name attached somewhere. That's part of what makes it smell a little quack-y, but sometimes truly useful treatments do-- we've all taken "proper" Rxs that didn't do the job and tried little hacks that yielded fruit.

Has a doctor, nutritionist, etc. ever discussed this stack with you? Have you tried it on your own? I'd love to hear people's experiences, if any. Cheers!



by Gemita - 2023-09-13 07:35:50

Onion_Custard, many of us take supplements.  For example I need Vitamin D for my bone health.  Supplements may or may not help to improve a particular health condition and it might be trial and error to find what works best for you.  What is important is that you tell your doctors before you start any supplements since if you are taking them together with any regularly "prescribed" meds, there may be interactions or adverse side effects.

A lot of folks here take magnesium and find this mineral helpful, particularly if you have arrhythmias.  I take Vitamin C (non acidic form) as Magnesium Ascorbate powder, Calcium Orotate, Vitamin D3.  Good nutrition though comes from my varied, healthy diet.  I don't like refined or fast foods.  I don't drink alcohol or smoke.  Boring, I know!

Dr. Sinatra's four heart supplements:  coenzyme Q10, L-carnitine, D-ribose, and magnesium?  I have only tried Coenzyme Q10 and Magnesium, not the other two.  I have consulted a nutritionist/dietician in the past and worked with them to find the right supplements to correct vitamin/mineral deficiencies (picked up by blood/hair analysis/skin tests in a specialised laboratory since not available from our NHS in the UK).  Most of my deficiencies however improved with eating a more balanced diet.

Remember supplements have not been fully tested for their efficacy as have prescribed meds, so I would try to avoid taking mega doses of any supplement and to build up dosage(s) slowly to "bowel" tolerance and as guided by your medical team.  


by Tracey_E - 2023-09-13 09:46:22

I don't think any rx or supplement is a one size fits all or a magic cure-all. I take mg, my doctor is in favor. I took COQ10 for a while but didn't see a difference and my doc said he wasn't impressed with it so I stopped. I take Vit D because I stay chronically low. Turmeric because I see a difference in my joints. That's it for me. Taking too many supplements causes kidney stones, and very few are proven to work, they are unregulated, so I tend to avoid them unless there's a compelling reason to take it. 


by new to pace.... - 2023-09-13 10:06:43

I also take supplements instead of medications.  My cardiologist is aware that i take them.  For me the Turmeric,  i use as a blood thinner and for when i eat foods that i am sensitive to.  Also take Vit D. And one  just started taking instead of Algal Oil is  Natto-Serrzime, which am going to stop as it seems to be causing bloating.  As it contains "fungi" mushrooms that have a lactose like surgar in them.

new to pace

coenzyme Q10, L-carnitine, D-ribose, and magnesium

by USMC-Pacer - 2023-09-13 14:37:35

I've taken all four of his recommended supplements. I still take CoQ10, L-Carnitine, and Magnesium. I was also taking Creatine. I no longer take Creatine or D-Ribose as one or both of them was causing my GFR (kidney function) to lower. Both can cause that so I stopped both simutaneously. My GFR quickly returned to normal. I'd love to know which one was the culprit as I enjoyed the creatine and it's weightlifting benefits. Anyway, as stated above, you have to be careful of stacking too many supplements at once due to adverse symptoms and difficulty discerning which caused benefits or harm. 

On a side note, I love L-Carnitine for workout energy and I swear it improves my cardio workouts. Your mileage may vary.

Thanks, everybody

by Onion_Custard - 2023-09-14 00:26:52

These are some great perspectives to take in to my GP.

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