How hard is it to get a diagnosis?

I am a 21 year old athlete (NCAA swimmer and runner) who had a pm placed in Sep '10. I first saw cardio when I was 17 due to many fainting episodes during my childhood/teenage years. I was diagnosed with vaso-vagal syncope, and put on a bcp to help with the hormonal imbalances that they thought were making it so bad (at one point i was fainting more than once a month). This helped for several years, but at 20 the fainting returned. Although this time it was quite different. I was literally just dropping to the floor and waking up. I was sent to neurology by my doctors thinking it was epilepsy. After neurology determined it was not seizures that I was having, I was sent to cardio (if it wasn't the brain it was the heart as far as they were concerned). I was placed on a 30-day event monitor. After only 2 days of having it, I had an episode, recorded it, and called it in over the phone. The event monitor company called back immediately and sent me to the ER saying I had a 13 second flatline.
I was kept in the hospital over night and a new cardiologist came in and said he was putting in a pm. It was placed, and they sent me home the next day.
Since then, I have been begging the doctors to find out what actually caused the flatline. They say it is vasovagal syncope, but the EKG I had did not look anything like an EKG for someone having a vasovagal episode. Several doctors I know have looked at it and said I threw a PVC right before the flatline and in several other places on different recordings, one has said he believes it is SSS - because there are several places on a couple of different EKGs where I have no P-waves after the suspected PVC, my pediatrician (who I do not see anymore) was talking to my mom and said she believes it is WPW (although there are no delta waves present) or an autoimmune disorder that has affected the SA node first, and the pm rep I saw before a lead revision in Nov said I had 42 PVCs between Oct and Nov, I also went to get a second opinion at Mayo Clinic and the doctor I saw said that he thought there was something else going on, but since there was a pm in place he was not going to test for anything. To me, none of the things I am being told add up. My doctors do not want to make a new diagnosis (I do not doubt the first diagnosis because all of the symptoms fit until recently, I simply think there is something else going on), and I know enough about cardio (my mom is also a doc and I am a nursing major) to know that what I saw on the EKG is not what happens during vasovagal syncope.

My major concern is the current group of doctors I am seeing are not running any tests (I have never even had a tilt-table test) yet they are saying they know nothing has changed with my heart. I am very concerned that they are missing something major - I have a brother that was born with a heart defect and a sister who is experiencing the same symptoms that I did at her age - and I cannot believe they will not even consider a different diagnosis.

Is it this difficult with doctors to get them to look at other possibilities?


3 Comments

Thanks for your Opinion

by blucherries7x89 - 2011-01-07 01:01:50

Thanks for the opinion, but it is possible you missed the main point of my comment... Probably because I wrote so much.

My main concern is whatever is causing the problem is genetic and my younger sister, and children when and if i have them, will be affected by it, because as many people know, when there are problems like this they often are genetic. And I worry that any immediate relatives of mine could be affected.

Knowing that there are much more dangerous heart problems than Vasovagal syncope, this is quite concerning due to the fact that I have never been tested for any of them. My doctor literally just stuck in the pm and said very much along the lines of your comment "'be satisfied and thankful'... you're not dead". It may seem stupid, and like "self-diagnosis" but that point of view is not okay with me, because they may have saved my life, but if they do not know what is wrong, how can they be sure that my little sister is not going to have the same problem as me, and they not catch it in time?

Don't understand...

by golden_snitch - 2011-01-07 04:01:51

Hi!

I would understand what you mean if your ECG had shown that you flat-lined because of a life-threatening arrhythmia like Long QT or others that make you go into ventricular tachycardia or fibrillation. Now, arrhythmias like those are often genetic, and since they are life-threatening, one would definitely need to test your sibblings etc. BUT one would have seen a sudden cardiac arrest caused by these types of arrhythmias on your event monitor, for sure. Same goes for WPW. One might not have been able to diagnose it as WPW, but the monitor would have shown tachycardia. However, as I understand, your monitor only showed that you flat-lined, it didn't show any kind of tachycardia before the long pause. If ECGs exists which indicate that you have SSS, then maybe that was really the reason. And since you got the pacer, everything's alright now, you are safe.

If your sister has symptoms similar to yours, then she should - against the backround of what happened to you - be tested. Has she seen a doctor, yet, and has this doctor been informed about your rhythm problems? Has she had a tilt table test for example? Worn a holter monitor?

Last but not least, even in medicine one will not always find out what exactly the reason for a certain problem is. Sometimes all one can do is treat the problem, not its origin.

Best wishes
Inga

I get it...

by tlthread - 2011-01-20 07:01:33

You're concerned because your diagnosis is not satisfactory to you. I'm 27 and had a PM implanted in Dec '10. It was scary for me. I, like you, fainted some in childhood--actually only a total 4 times my entire life (once at 14 yrs old, May 2007, May 2009, Sept 2010--then a 5th time during a tilt table test). At first I had lots of neuro tests for epilepsy, but then I had a tilt table table tests when all of the neuro tests were normal. My doc really just lumped a bunch of diagnosis together (bradycardia, neurally mediated syncope, SSS)--during the ttt, I flatlined for 12 secs. He quickly said only a PM would help. I don't have to take any medication, so that's great, but the diagnosis didn't really satisfy me either. Final diagnosis that was used for PM implantation was SSS. I have an identical twin sister and was so confused at why she didn't have the same problem...my doc's answer was that at some point before 14 I contracted some sort of virus that compromised the conductivity system of my heart. I know my post doesn't help you, but at least you know that I'm kind of in the same boat. I hope you get the answers you're looking for!

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