I had my double, Covid booster and seasonal flu, jabs yesterday.

I'm keeping ectopics at bay at the monment with 10-mg Bisoprolol daily and so far, it seems to work.

Until last night. Heat rate dropped to below 40-BPM and oxygen showing 70%..

I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but it is rather coincidental.

I'm erring on the fact that with two sore arms, sleeping was going to be difficult and stressful. I did take one optional amitripyline tablet so can't factor that out.

There's a lot stuff out in the metasphere about heart rhythmns and Covid vaccinations which I largely dismiss but I wondered if anyone here had any personal experiences.

It certainly won't put me off.



by Penguin - 2023-10-04 08:28:55

Re: Covid Vaccine - I haven't had any noticeable cardiac disturbances personally post Covid vaccinations / boosters, but I haven't had this year's vaccine to date. I'm hoping for a similar experience!

Re: Amitriptylene - Do you take this drug regularly or just when you need it / irregularly and is that how it was prescribed to you? 

There is a side effect profile with this drug which includes arrhythmia. This may be dose dependent and may also depend on how you take it / how long you have been taking it.

May be worth exploring further. 

The BNF interaction checker with bisoprolol showed this:

Amitriptilene and Bisoprolol together can cause hypotension (low BP).  

low oxygen

by Tracey_E - 2023-10-04 09:05:17

If your oxygen is that low, call your doctor!

Hi Tracey

by piglet22 - 2023-10-04 10:35:48

I'm seeing tha consultant next week so something else to add to the list.

Oxygen level-tell a doc today 😵‍💫

by Lavender - 2023-10-04 13:37:55

Piglet, you should at least report that low oxygen level immediately. If it falls below 90% they want to know around here. 88% is considered dangerously low. 

I had my flu shot on Monday. I usually get Flublok, but the pcp was only able to get Fluzone this year. Within 24 hours, I had a very sore arm with heat and redness. I had an elevated temperature and felt tired and unwell.  Today I feel fine, but the sore arm remains with heat at the injection site, bruising and the redness is now browning and diminishing. I did report this to my pcp office. This is considered normal 🙄

My pcp said it's up to me regarding the Covid Vax. He suggested though if I get it to go for Novavax. It's not an mRNA. I did get several Pfizer vax but not the latest one. I had a reaction to the last one that caused severe stomach pain which sent me to the ER the day after the vaccination was given to me. My doc said he's ok with me not getting the Covid vax this time because we're not sure what part of it caused the gastro distress. 



by piglet22 - 2023-10-04 14:26:57

Thanks for that.

I'm not too worried about the oxygen. The oximeter struggles with low heart rates and 2am is not a good time to read fiddly little numbers.

I'm generally OK with sats and this looks like a one off, but to be remembered.

Here in the UK there isn't much choice of vaccines

 You just roll up, get checked in and out in minutes. I had Pfizer Covid, but don't know what it was.

It certainly gave me a sore arm and still is

 Getting both at the same time is asking a lot and they only started doing it this year.

 I will be seeing the consultant next Tuesday, first time in 18 years, so a few questions to ask.

The bottom line is the pacemaker not behaving and all the problems I've been having are due to it dropping below the minimum by a long way.

It's down to the number of ectopics I get, but I think the PM should be able to ignore them.

The medics approach at the moment is to swamp everything with Bisoprolol.

We shall see. I don't want to be on this dose for ever. The episode last night might have been triggered by the extra amitriptyline I took, but I was squirming around and needed to doze off.

I might try it again out of interest but not until next week is out of the way.

Extremely cautious

by 73Rawk - 2023-10-05 22:59:04

My own timeline may be conincidental but I have serious reservsations about Covid boosters for me.

August 2022 I tested positive for Covid and spent a week isolating at home. Felt terribly lathargic but to me it felt similar to the worst flu I'd ever had. A week after isolation later I collasped at my wifes book launch in front of a packed room of people. The amblance officers who attended, detacted some rhythm issues but they seemed to resolve and was cleared to go home. From that time on I never felt the same physically.

Fast forward to January 2023, I was going on a cruise as an entertainer and was advised I needed a booster which would be my fourth dose. I did not feel well the day after I received the vaccination (for the record Pfizer) and ended up leaving work and spending the rest of the day on the couch. Three days later I experienced a similar fainting episode just as I was preparing to pull out of my driveway to go to work. Two days later, in the evening, I experienced palpations and dizziness which when I was taken to hospital resolved once again but the same rhythms were noted by the ambulance officers, one of which had attended me during the August incident. Went back to my GP who ordered scans on my head and carotid arteries to test for blockages and such, as well as blood tests. All came back with nothing sinister to note. 

I go on the cruise, second song into the first performance on the boat I collaspse as I had done in August 2022. I was taken to the ships hospital where I experienced my first sudden cardiac arrest, and the rest is history. 

For me the timing was too cooincidental and my trust in the vaccine/s has bottomed out. I'm not an antivaxxer by any stretch but my experience has thrown up serious concerns about me partaking in the vax program any further. It may be short sighted on behalf but I can't dismiss it easily. 

In case you were wondering, my wife's book is titled 'A Sisters Deception' written by Faye Lockwood. Available on Amazon....😊 


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