Climber again

Thanks for your replies. I had my first post surgery meeting with my cardiologist who still felt I should quit climbing. He said it was the same as weight lifting and neither should be attempted because of the potential for lead dislodgment. Reading that other people still continue to weight lift I feel he may be too conservative. I posted a climbing with icd question on a climbing forum were a cardio physiologist responded that she felt she would be more concerned about an incident when climbing not lead dislodgment.
I finally contact Guidant who supplied the leads for my Atlas defibrillator. The authority there said once scar tissue had stabilized the leads , I could resume climbing. He stated that their data indicated continuous repetitive motion was the major cause for leads becoming dislodged.
I have decided to spend the next three months improving my cardio fitness then slowly and cautiously return to indoor climbing with the intent to return to outdoor sport climbing next year. There seems to be a lot of conflicting information from the medical field. I think there are many icd recipients who are not willing to settle for lawn bowling and like me will still try to pursue their passions.
Thanks Cathryn and Mike, hearing from both of you was a great moral boost. I climb in Squamish, Skaha, Smith Rock and occasionally in Washington. My home is in Vancouver Canada and I am always up for a day of indoor or outdoor climbing or hiking with visitors. Especially fellow icd recipients. Please keep in touch, hearing from real people on this forum has helped me get over the bad days. Thanks Rolf


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Great News

by mike thurston - 2007-09-07 12:09:35

Great news Rolf,
The whole thing is really scary and like you said, lots of conflicting info. from Doctors and Companies. I actually did my first climb last weekend. I went out totally by myself and set up a top rope self belay on a 40 foot 5.5.
I also did 3 rappels. Afterwards I rode 21 miles on my mtn. bike on a rails to trails route that passes the climbing area.
I wrecked inside a 500 foot long tunnel and had to just lay there and laugh. I was 2 and half hours from home in a tunnel with no one around and no one had a clue I was there. I just have the attitude that if it is my time to go then I will go even if the Doctor is right beside me. A few years back I got to climb for two weekends at Squamish - beautiful place. Best Of Luck. Maybe some day we can do an all ICD redpoint.
Mike

You two Rock

by Rolf - 2007-09-13 12:09:29

You two really rock. What , great attitude and commitment. Cathryn, you have encouraged me to get out and trail run again. Mike an ICD redpoint sounds great, perhaps even an ICD first ascent as long as we don't have to ride there. Cheers Rolf

Hello Rolf

by fenix - 2007-09-14 11:09:11


Some EP's are more conservative than others regarding strenuous activities advice after PM implant.

In my own case, I had a Guidant Insignia I Plus 1298 dual lead on-demand model implanted May 2006 (16 months ago) and after initial adjustments my EP said I can do anything I want physically.

Since that time I had been doing bike centuries, cross country ski races (5-6 hour range), etc.

During last 3 months I have done weight lifting with a coach. When I asked my EP if doing flys with weights (on your back extending arms laterally) might be risky he didn't seem to be very concerned regarding pulling out leads.

This July-August I spent in Colorado, went up several fourteeners (over 14000 ft in elevation) by myself and it didn't seem to bother me at all. The dual on-demand pm worked great. I carried a small pack maybe 12 lbs so that I could keep the left backpack strap on the outside shoulder away from the pacemaker.

Last weekend did an olympic-length triathlon without any problems. Free-style swimming extending your arms full length is no problem.

My PM is set at min 50bpm and max at 140bpm.

What I am trying to say Rolf is that I am sure that you have a good future in climbing. Before I got my PM I thought that my active life might be over, but it turned out not too bad.

I am now 75 years old and hope to continue my physical endurance activities.

PS.
During cath ablation procedure for minor atrial flutter, things got somewhat screwed up and I had to get a PM after running around here in Midwest and East coast trying to get advice from top EPs whether I really needed a PM implant.

My experience with Guidant people was not very good - didn't even get a decent PM adjustment next day after implant, my heart rate was racing at around 130 after a few minutes walk. Letters to Guidant office went unanswered.

At any rate, I wish you lots of climbing successes. You should be doing well.
Regards
Al

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